Do we get enough here in the United States? I wonder what the contribution to public health would look like if we made it unacceptable to show up to work or school ill. In the beginning this approach would increase absenteeism but, in the long run, it might reduce the spread of diseases across the population very effectively.
The issue is more that we have no mechanisms for verifying that people are actually ill (and herding them into an MDs office isn't an ideal solution as it pools all of the ill people together to infect older and sicker patients there for other health concerns). Add in a cultural dislike of reasonable accommodation and it is not surprising that people comply with the incentives to show up to work or school ill.
Don;t you wish that there was a better way?
Comments, observations and thoughts from two bloggers on applied statistics, higher education and epidemiology. Joseph is an associate professor. Mark is a professional statistician and former math teacher.
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
Academic Reform
Any attack on an entrenched institution seems to draw strong feelings as to whether the critique is justified. However, this one seems to be flawed even by the standards of people with serious concerns about the current model for scientific research.
In general, I think questioning a model is good and necessarily to ensure strong future research. But there are several things that I think need to be kept in mind.
1) If it is obvious, has universal agreement and yet is not being done then there might be a reason for that. The idea that science and liberal arts degrees should better prepare students for work in the real world is an old idea; that it isn't being done is both because it is hard and because it diverts students from research productivity.
Incentives matters and so does viability.
2) Reforming tenure is an old canard. Let me make one point. At best speed, to become a tenured professor, one needs to spend 4 years as an undergraduate, 6 years as a graduate student and possibly as many as 5 years as a post-doctoral fellow (where salaries are typically well below what could be obtained elsewhere). After this 15 year preparation, professors then have 5 years to win grants and prove themselves worthy of tenure. This is a 20 year preparatory program, much of it at very low wages.
It is true that the reward system is loaded at the back end but reforming tenure to make being a senior professor less rewarding should ideally also consider the poor working conditions, long hours and low pay of the multi-decade training program!
Just a thought.
I really liked MsPhD's concern about what happens in a world of pure "soft money" positions. I am starting to suspect that the downsides of this paradigm (at least as currently implemented) outweigh the upsides.
In general, I think questioning a model is good and necessarily to ensure strong future research. But there are several things that I think need to be kept in mind.
1) If it is obvious, has universal agreement and yet is not being done then there might be a reason for that. The idea that science and liberal arts degrees should better prepare students for work in the real world is an old idea; that it isn't being done is both because it is hard and because it diverts students from research productivity.
Incentives matters and so does viability.
2) Reforming tenure is an old canard. Let me make one point. At best speed, to become a tenured professor, one needs to spend 4 years as an undergraduate, 6 years as a graduate student and possibly as many as 5 years as a post-doctoral fellow (where salaries are typically well below what could be obtained elsewhere). After this 15 year preparation, professors then have 5 years to win grants and prove themselves worthy of tenure. This is a 20 year preparatory program, much of it at very low wages.
It is true that the reward system is loaded at the back end but reforming tenure to make being a senior professor less rewarding should ideally also consider the poor working conditions, long hours and low pay of the multi-decade training program!
Just a thought.
I really liked MsPhD's concern about what happens in a world of pure "soft money" positions. I am starting to suspect that the downsides of this paradigm (at least as currently implemented) outweigh the upsides.
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Bayesian Priors
I know that it is difficult to actually create a prior that substantively influences a point estimate (except by design). But I always find it hard to justify a default prior. Is it merely that Ihave not spent enough time thinking about my data? Or am I missing some sort of trick to this process?
Aetiology
This epidemiology site has an excellent coverage of the current swine flu outbreak. It is nice to see some smart commenting on the progress of this disease and the Battlestar Galatica quotes are an added bonus.
Monday, April 27, 2009
Swine Flu
Well, it looks like there is a case in Northern California now. Joy!
It is unclear, when the numbers are so low, what will be the size of the epidemic and what will be the mortality rate. The rate of 173 death out of 1,995 infections would be alarming if we really knew that 1,995 was the correct denominator. However, there is likely to be considerable under-ascertainment in a country like Mexico among the survivors (especially those who did not seek medical care). This factor is likely to be especially important if reports of patients being turned away from medical care turn out to be widely true.
On the flip side, with only 40 cases in the US, many of which may be at the beginning of the course of the disease, we have no idea what the mortality rate is likely to be. It is still possible for it to be 0%; at which point we'll look like we over-reacted.
I think that this is a good example of the challenges of problems with lagged information (incubation times) and geometric growth rates. The point at which intervention can be effective seems to also be the point at which there is not enough data to distinguish a serious public health issue from a decidedly mild outbreak.
It is unclear, when the numbers are so low, what will be the size of the epidemic and what will be the mortality rate. The rate of 173 death out of 1,995 infections would be alarming if we really knew that 1,995 was the correct denominator. However, there is likely to be considerable under-ascertainment in a country like Mexico among the survivors (especially those who did not seek medical care). This factor is likely to be especially important if reports of patients being turned away from medical care turn out to be widely true.
On the flip side, with only 40 cases in the US, many of which may be at the beginning of the course of the disease, we have no idea what the mortality rate is likely to be. It is still possible for it to be 0%; at which point we'll look like we over-reacted.
I think that this is a good example of the challenges of problems with lagged information (incubation times) and geometric growth rates. The point at which intervention can be effective seems to also be the point at which there is not enough data to distinguish a serious public health issue from a decidedly mild outbreak.
Thursday, April 23, 2009
OT: Truly bad ideas
Mark has a nice question about a suggestion from the Ohio militia to have 1,000,000 armed people march on Washington as a demonstration.
What could go wrong?
Somehow the mind boggles . . .
What could go wrong?
Somehow the mind boggles . . .
Pay if forward
MsPhD brings up an interesting point: what is the duty of people in the field to ensure the success of the next generation? Modern science has reached an interesting place where the talented and engaged scientist is able to continue to contribute for an extremely long period of time. In many cases, the ability to have people with this refined level of judgment around is really important.
But there is also a tension with the newer generation. In biomedicine we have seen less of this tension lately because there was recently a big expansion of funding. But now that we are getting back to a more stable funding paradigm, it is worth asking what is the balance between mentoring new people and continuing work.
It'd be more obvious if the barriers to entry were lower -- mentoring a new investigator is hard work; can or should we find creative ways to make it more rewarding?
But there is also a tension with the newer generation. In biomedicine we have seen less of this tension lately because there was recently a big expansion of funding. But now that we are getting back to a more stable funding paradigm, it is worth asking what is the balance between mentoring new people and continuing work.
It'd be more obvious if the barriers to entry were lower -- mentoring a new investigator is hard work; can or should we find creative ways to make it more rewarding?
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
You can never go home
Today's post by an post-doc [chall] reminded me of my own immigration experiences. It was a very depressing and demoralizing time period; one that I hope to never have to repeat.
But it has another, unexpected, consequence. It is really hard to go home for work. This idea of working for a while back home has come up, but leaving the US for an extended period of time for employment really appears to place the Green Card at risk. I could just wait it out, become a citizen and then consider such things. But that seems like a bad approach at a number of levels.
So there really is a "burning of the boats" feeling with my time in the US. It's probably a good thing that I like the environment here a lot. :-)
But it has another, unexpected, consequence. It is really hard to go home for work. This idea of working for a while back home has come up, but leaving the US for an extended period of time for employment really appears to place the Green Card at risk. I could just wait it out, become a citizen and then consider such things. But that seems like a bad approach at a number of levels.
So there really is a "burning of the boats" feeling with my time in the US. It's probably a good thing that I like the environment here a lot. :-)
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Only in Canada
I encountered his thought provoking article on a science blog:
There are definitely some well founded concerns about this modest proposal, but the mere fact that it has such a strong argument underpinning it focuses us to reflect on the peer review system. Peer review is a massive burden and can lead to a "herd mentality". Some peer review is essential as you can't evaluate top experts in any other reasonable way (at least in the context of awarding grants).
Is there too much redundancy in the system?
Gordon, R. & B.J. Poulin (2009). Cost of the NSERC science grant peer
review system exceeds the cost of giving every qualified researcher a
baseline grant. Accountability in Research: Policies and Quality
Assurance 16(1), 1-28.
Basically, the authors point out that (given the denominator and the success rate of NSERC grants) that we might all be better off with just awarding a fixed award to all applicants. It seems to make sense only in the Canadian context where high success rates, low indirects and a lack of soft-money positions might actually make this approach viable. There are definitely some well founded concerns about this modest proposal, but the mere fact that it has such a strong argument underpinning it focuses us to reflect on the peer review system. Peer review is a massive burden and can lead to a "herd mentality". Some peer review is essential as you can't evaluate top experts in any other reasonable way (at least in the context of awarding grants).
Is there too much redundancy in the system?
Friday, April 17, 2009
OT: Pension Plans
A recent post has me wondering about how aware people are of how things are linked. A pension plan based on future government promise is no different than a pension plan that invests in government bonds at the most fundamental level. It doesn't matter if the promise is via a government program or via a government promise to pay out yields on bonds. Both require the future health of the government and a decision to honor obligations.
The history of bonds has many examples of where government policy worked to ensure that bonds (i.e. the basis of the National debt) were not paid. While countries like the United States and Canada are not Spain or Russia, even Britain has had some questionable episodes with national debt.
So why do people seem to assume that "defined contribution plans" based on government debt are safer than "defined benefit plans" like social security or the Canadian Pension Plan?
It is true that you could invest "defined contributions" into the stock market or corporate bonds instead. I venture to say that recent events have shown non-zero risk with corporate bonds. Stock markets have a bad tendency to have large shifts. So low risk investing is looking a lot like believing in government's ability to meet future debt obligations.
I think that once we accept this fact than the complexity of the situation is a lot more apparent.
The history of bonds has many examples of where government policy worked to ensure that bonds (i.e. the basis of the National debt) were not paid. While countries like the United States and Canada are not Spain or Russia, even Britain has had some questionable episodes with national debt.
So why do people seem to assume that "defined contribution plans" based on government debt are safer than "defined benefit plans" like social security or the Canadian Pension Plan?
It is true that you could invest "defined contributions" into the stock market or corporate bonds instead. I venture to say that recent events have shown non-zero risk with corporate bonds. Stock markets have a bad tendency to have large shifts. So low risk investing is looking a lot like believing in government's ability to meet future debt obligations.
I think that once we accept this fact than the complexity of the situation is a lot more apparent.
Thursday, April 16, 2009
How long should a post-doctoral fellowship last?
I think that we have a privileged view of this question in Epidemiology. None of the professors who were being hired when I started my PhD had ever done a post-doctoral fellowship (as other than a one year stint to get another university on their CV; only about 50% of them had done even that).
Now I am entering the second year of a post-doctoral fellowship and you can see the change where it is becoming common to do a multi-year fellowship. Although, I still see cases of people being hired into faculty directly out of the PhD or, more commonly, trying to be hired as faculty directly out of their PhD program.
So this makes me sympathetic to this post by MsPhd. It being widely panned elsewhere, but I wonder if the main point is being missed. Post-doctoral training is an ideal phase for "creep" in expectations. It's pretty clear that standards are rising in biomedicine for what it takes to succeed. Some of this is good -- a solid arms race will produce better outcomes. But the dark side of this process is people being kept back for very long periods of time. If this process leads to happy outcomes (or decent outcomes) for all involved than this is perfectly fine.
But what if it doesn't?
What is the ideal length of a fellowship training period? My field's traditional answer of "none" seems too short but more than five years seems too long. Or am I missing something?
Now I am entering the second year of a post-doctoral fellowship and you can see the change where it is becoming common to do a multi-year fellowship. Although, I still see cases of people being hired into faculty directly out of the PhD or, more commonly, trying to be hired as faculty directly out of their PhD program.
So this makes me sympathetic to this post by MsPhd. It being widely panned elsewhere, but I wonder if the main point is being missed. Post-doctoral training is an ideal phase for "creep" in expectations. It's pretty clear that standards are rising in biomedicine for what it takes to succeed. Some of this is good -- a solid arms race will produce better outcomes. But the dark side of this process is people being kept back for very long periods of time. If this process leads to happy outcomes (or decent outcomes) for all involved than this is perfectly fine.
But what if it doesn't?
What is the ideal length of a fellowship training period? My field's traditional answer of "none" seems too short but more than five years seems too long. Or am I missing something?
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Tenure Track?
Over in blue lab coats, a comment was made about the downside of only accepting students that looked promising for tenure track positions. Namely, this criteria would bias against students who are unlikely to be accepted into tenure track positions.
Now, this bias can take one of two forms. There can be irrational discrimination (such as age or gender-based). I think that we can all agree that this type of discrimination is a bad thing and should be avoided.
But at a more pragmatic level, the scheme where one student in ten succeeds (and these appear to be optimistic odds) at the primary career path of a 5+ year high intensity training program seems to need revision as well. If the goal of the academy is to produce the next generation of academic researchers then we need to fess up to the unfair nature of over-production.
And don't get me started on the whole "non-tenure track" movement in medical research. Vile!
Now, this bias can take one of two forms. There can be irrational discrimination (such as age or gender-based). I think that we can all agree that this type of discrimination is a bad thing and should be avoided.
But at a more pragmatic level, the scheme where one student in ten succeeds (and these appear to be optimistic odds) at the primary career path of a 5+ year high intensity training program seems to need revision as well. If the goal of the academy is to produce the next generation of academic researchers then we need to fess up to the unfair nature of over-production.
And don't get me started on the whole "non-tenure track" movement in medical research. Vile!
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
Why clear methods are important
A really nice post was done today by DrugMonkey. I think that he issues that DrugMonkey raises are even more important in epidemiology than in bench science. In bench science you have the possibility of replication in a strict sense (and it is, in fact, a governing principle of bench science). In Epidemiology, the population changes between studies and it is difficult to compare between populations. As Heraclitus said "You can never step into the same river twice"; in Epidemiology you never have the same study population twice.
Perversely, this fact actually makes the methods more important as failure to replicate could also indicate unique features of a population. This makes it critical to be able to separate methodological issues from population issues, insofar as this is possible.
Given how badly medical papers seem to document decisions (part of it being a style issue for the field), there is a lot we could do to improve on matters.
Perversely, this fact actually makes the methods more important as failure to replicate could also indicate unique features of a population. This makes it critical to be able to separate methodological issues from population issues, insofar as this is possible.
Given how badly medical papers seem to document decisions (part of it being a style issue for the field), there is a lot we could do to improve on matters.
Monday, April 13, 2009
Who will be successful?
Post from Professor in Training and Physio-Prof have gotten me thinking about academic evaluation procedures. The discussion about who got hired and subsequent success makes me consider one of the difficult issues in academic hiring. You want to hire people who will be successful. But, most of the time, you don't know what success will look like. So you use proxy measures; some of which are blindingly unfair. For example, the institution that a person attended could be due to brilliance or it could be due to location, connections or a number of other factors.
The same thing is true of obtaining funding. This issue seems to be the major hurdle for success as a junior academic. I seem to have no trouble with publishing papers but I have had a series of miserable failures when applying for fellowships. I was never sure why success in one domain translated into abject failure in another. Or maybe I just never understood the CIHR criteria to fund students?
But if the measure of success of a fellowship is productivity then it is odd that I never obtained one as many of my peers who were easily offered several choices had far less success at producing research. In this sense, I find the academy more difficult to succeed in than my old career as as statistician. Back then, poor prognostic signs could be overcome with hard work, smart ideas and a lot of success. People stopped caring what your alma mater was once you become highly success.
In academics, failing to get a fellowship is a reason not to promote somebody further. So once you have one thing go wrong it is much harder to get back into the pipeline. These days I have half given up on a career path and mostly stick around doing cool research. I like what I do and that is rare enough that I have kind of stopped caring about the whole "career management" issues.
But it strikes me as a sub-optimal system in a lot of ways . . .
The same thing is true of obtaining funding. This issue seems to be the major hurdle for success as a junior academic. I seem to have no trouble with publishing papers but I have had a series of miserable failures when applying for fellowships. I was never sure why success in one domain translated into abject failure in another. Or maybe I just never understood the CIHR criteria to fund students?
But if the measure of success of a fellowship is productivity then it is odd that I never obtained one as many of my peers who were easily offered several choices had far less success at producing research. In this sense, I find the academy more difficult to succeed in than my old career as as statistician. Back then, poor prognostic signs could be overcome with hard work, smart ideas and a lot of success. People stopped caring what your alma mater was once you become highly success.
In academics, failing to get a fellowship is a reason not to promote somebody further. So once you have one thing go wrong it is much harder to get back into the pipeline. These days I have half given up on a career path and mostly stick around doing cool research. I like what I do and that is rare enough that I have kind of stopped caring about the whole "career management" issues.
But it strikes me as a sub-optimal system in a lot of ways . . .
Saturday, April 11, 2009
OT: Knights of the Old Republic
While I know I am late to the table in singing the praises of this game, the storyline is remarkable. It is a very nice implementation of an interactive story and seems to strike a good balance between the level of restriction required to make voice acting viable and freedom to do interesting things. It is a good plot with a rather well foreshadowed plot twist.
But why, for what possible reason, would they insert a "difficult to beat" (for my bad reflexes at least) first person shooter with a long sequence of videos between the last save point and the shooter. I think I have seen the same 5 minutes of video so many times that I want to scream!
Otherwise a fine game!
But why, for what possible reason, would they insert a "difficult to beat" (for my bad reflexes at least) first person shooter with a long sequence of videos between the last save point and the shooter. I think I have seen the same 5 minutes of video so many times that I want to scream!
Otherwise a fine game!
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