Wednesday, April 30, 2025

Sometimes it's useful and I think healthy to imagine trying to explain the news of 2025 to the you of 2015.


Donald Trump is doing everything he can to ensure the Conservative Party will lose today’s election in Canada.

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— Republicans Against Trumpism (@rpsagainsttrump.bsky.social) April 28, 2025 at 7:44 AM

It's really hard to overstate how hugely favored conservatives were up until two months ago. Here's the graph of Canadian polling between March 2023 and March 2025. (Reminder: blue is conservative.) Those are months and months of 20+ point leads for Tories.

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— Taniel (@taniel.bsky.social) April 28, 2025 at 7:21 PM
Paul Krugman has a good take on the larger ramifications.

If Trump had merely made economic demands on our northern neighbor, Canada might have acquiesced, although it’s not clear what concessions it could have made. But by repeatedly insisting that Canada must become the 51st state, he made any hint of Trumpiness toxic in Canadian politics. Hence the stunning defeat for Pierre Poilievre, the Conservative leader (who lost his own seat in Parliament.)

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Consider the state of negotiations — or, actually, non-negotiations, since talks appear to have broken down — with Japan, another country Trump appears to have thought he could bully. Japan does sell a lot to the United States and might have been willing to offer something to preserve its access to our market.

But reports indicate that Japanese representatives sent to Washington left without accomplishing anything because they found Trump’s people impossible to deal with. The Americans insisted that the Japanese make offers without giving any indication of what our side wanted — in effect, they demanded that Japan make a show of obeisance without any reason to believe that it would get anything in return. The Japanese government wouldn’t, probably couldn’t do that. After all, it has to answer to its own voters. So there is no deal.

And then there are the Chinese, who — unlike the Canadians or even the Japanese — probably have more economic leverage over us than we have over them. They have no interest in helping Trump sustain his fantasies of dominance. Bear in mind that Trump’s trade war is working out very well for them. Bloomberg reports that

President Xi Jinping’s diplomats are fanning out across the world with a clear message for countries cutting deals with Donald Trump: The US is a bully that can’t be trusted.

Unfortunately, they’re right. And Trump’s repeated insistence that the Chinese are negotiating with him, when they say they aren’t, comes across as pathetic.



Tuesday, April 29, 2025

Will the robotaxi business really be worth $443 billion to Tesla?

As discussed previously, one of the ten largest corporations in the world by valuation is a failing car company with small and rapidly declining sales, which the CEO and largest shareholder himself has suggested may never release another new model.

Despite this and other damaging revelations, the price of the stock has recently shot up almost 20%. As I'm writing this, its price to earnings ratio is 155.82. (Toyota's is 7.25.) Other than the possibility of graft (and it would have to be truly unprecedented to justify this market cap), the bull case for holding—let alone buying—the stock rests entirely on two products still in the prototype stage and already facing intense competition from companies with a bigger foothold in the market and what are arguably superior technologies.

We've talked about Optimus, the humanoid robot, earlier, and we will come back to it. For now, let's look at Tesla's proposed robotaxi business.

For starters, there are the findings that the company's own analysts reached even when they included Musk's absurdly optimistic assumptions. [Joe Wilkins writing for Futurism.]

Tesla's robotaxi will also have to contend with Musk's ever-irrational ego trips. In new reporting, The Information found that when an internal Tesla analysis suggested that the Cybercab would was unlikely to sell well or become profitable, Musk buried the report instead of facing reality.

"We had lots of modeling that showed the payback around [Full Self Driving] and Robotaxi was going to be slow," Rohan Patel, Tesla's former head of business development and policy who left the company last year, told the outlet. "It was going to be choppy. It was going to be very, very hard outside of the US [Keep in mind, this was before Musk and Tesla saw their popularity plummet across Europe -- MP], given the regulatory environment or lack of regulatory environment."

Per The Information, the internal analysis was based on Musk's own hare-brained assumptions that "individuals would buy the cars, but a large portion of the sales would go to fleet operators, and the vehicles would mostly be used for ride-sharing." In addition, "many people would give up car ownership and use Robotaxis" and "Tesla would get a cut of each Robotaxi ride."

Along with some other executives, Patel used this analysis to highlight how much more reasonable it was to focus on the $25,000 vehicle, but Musk shrugged it off. Instead, he axed the $25,000 Tesla program altogether, and went all-in on the Cybercab.

Musk is promising a 90% plus share of the robotaxi market.  He  has also promised to have a million robotaxis on the road "next year" since 2019. In that time, Waymo has gotten a pretty good head start.

Tesla still doesn't have a robotaxi service. Waymo is now doing 250,000+ paid trips a week across its markets in the US. www.cnbc.com/2025/04/24/w... brief update from me @cnbc.com w/ my colleague on the Alphabet beat @jennelias.bsky.social

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— Lora Kolodny (@lorak.bsky.social) April 24, 2025 at 3:08 PM

[For a good rebuttal of Musk's dismissive comments about Waymo, check out these comments from John Krafcik, Waymo founder and former CEO.]

Ironically, the one part of the earnings call that arguably got investors most excited—the June launch in Austin—was the most damaging to the robotaxi narrative when you dug into the details.

Musk claiming to have a general solution to self-driving, present tense

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 2:49 PM

Supposedly, Tesla has self-driving solved and the Cybercab ready to roll into mass production next year. So what will the upcoming rollout of robotaxis look like (assuming it happens at all)? Ten to twenty Model Ys, geo-fenced and teleoperation-assisted—in other words, what Waymo has been doing for years, only without LIDAR.

There's no way to reconcile what Musk has been claiming with what he's proposing. The rollout doesn't prove anything. It can't add significantly to the data they already have on Full Self-Driving using their current array of sensors. All this does is reiterate the fact that they have absolutely no technological advantage over their well-established competitor.

We've been down this road before with Elon. Remember when he promised a futuristic underground system that would take your car at blinding speeds to any point under Los Angeles, thanks to his fantastic new tunneling machines? Instead, what we got was a car driven through a completely conventional tunnel, stabilized with wheels bolted to its sides. All these years later, The Boring Company has produced no technological innovations whatsoever. It is a Theranos-level failure to deliver on promised technology.

As of this writing, Tesla has a market cap of $892.88B. Almost all of that is based on the potential profits from robotaxis and robots. It's difficult to see how the first of those two justifies hundreds of millions in market cap. We'll talk more about robots next time.

Monday, April 28, 2025

#SummerOfScarcity

If you're selective with social media and limit yourself to following smart, savvy—in the good sense—people (which now pretty much means Bluesky), you will often start hearing about the next big story a week or more before everyone else.

Case in point: last week, when everyone was trying to decipher the latest vague and contradictory comment on tariffs out of the White House, those who followed people like Carl Quintanilla knew that the first wave of damage from the tariffs was already on its way (or, more precisely, not on its way), and it was too late to do anything about it.

This information was coming out before and during the huge market rally.

 

#SummerOfScarcity 🇺🇸

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 19, 2025 at 11:22 AM

#SummerOfScarcity 🇺🇸

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 5:26 PM

“.. Everything you’re buying today was imported pretariffs. But those warehouses will run out in the next 30 to 90 days,” he says. @wsj.com #SummerOfScarcity www.wsj.com/tech/persona...

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 6:26 PM

I see people comparing Trump to 1700s mercantilists. That’s not quite right. Even 18th century mercantilists knew that if you were trying to use tariffs to boost your trade surplus, you wanted to tax imports of *finished goods,* not the *inputs* www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/tru...

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) March 12, 2025 at 6:53 PM

Again even the 1700s mercantilists knew not to do something this dumb www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/0...

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 4:30 PM

youtu.be/5cje9uX5rXg?...

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— markpalko.bsky.social (@markpalko.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 2:52 PM

Every factory on earth, except those located in the United States, can get the inputs they need from China, without paying an additional 145 percent markup.

— Justin Wolfers (@justinwolfers.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 10:11 AM

Lol “strategic uncertainty” 🤡

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 1:03 PM

This is nonsense

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— Kai Ryssdal (@kairyssdal.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 6:43 AM

Kill me

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— Kai Ryssdal (@kairyssdal.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 8:40 AM

Bloomberg’s daily data for the number of container ships sailing from China to the US. Huge drop in recent weeks. (H/T Torsten Slok)

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 7:14 AM

US sales to China of key agricultural commodities, like soybeans and pork, are plunging as the trade war begins to impact the domestic economy. www.axios.com/2025/04/26/t...

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 26, 2025 at 7:03 AM

Suboptimal, if I’m honest. www.wsj.com/business/log...

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— Sky Marchini (@sky.skymarchini.net) April 25, 2025 at 8:18 PM

“In the 3 weeks since the tariffs took effect, ocean-container bookings from China to the U.S. are down by more than 60%. “Cargo carriers that bring Asian goods to the Port of Los Angeles have canceled 20 port calls next month, more than 3 times as many as last month.” Gift link ⤵️ wapo.st/4jWUrip

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— Bill Grueskin (@bgrueskin.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 6:19 PM

Toward the end of the week, this started getting serious coverage. Of the major news orgs, the LA Times seems to have beaten the competition by at least a day or two.

Imports at the Port of Los Angeles are expected to plunge in the next two weeks, even as negotiations over the final tariffs that China and other countries must pay are still being negotiated by President Trump.

That was the sobering message that port Executive Director Gene Seroka had Thursday for the Los Angeles Board of Harbor Commissioners during an update on port activity.

“It’s my prediction that in two weeks’ time, arrivals will drop by 35% as essentially all shipments out of China for major retailers and manufacturers have ceased, and cargo coming out of Southeast Asia locations is much softer than normal,” Seroka told the board.



On the container ship traffic from China to the US this article from the Journal from two days ago has a lot of details. (link should be unlocked) www.wsj.com/business/log...

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— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 7:28 PM

Again more data on container shipping www.barrons.com/articles/tar...

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— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 8:25 PM

This is a key point. Shortages are already baked.

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— Kai Ryssdal (@kairyssdal.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 7:30 AM
That whole thread from Marshall is worth checking out, particularly the conclusion.

5/ that after the first week or may there are simply no ships from China arriving. Whatever the precise specifics the point is that this is already locked in. The severe drop off has already happened but it’s all off set by weeks because the Pacific Ocean is big and ocean freight speed is …

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 7:19 AM

6/ relatively slow. And it has knock on effects in domestic shipping. It will hit trucking hard but that’s still a couple weeks away. Even if you only have roughly a 50% drop off in volume that shows up not just as rising costs but shortages. And even Trump woke up tomorrow and …

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 7:19 AM

7/ called everything off you’d still have a significant period of shortages locked in. And obviously that’s not going to happen. We will also almost certainly see a limited version of the supply chain snarls we say during the pandemic. There are reports of some containers simply sitting or …

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 7:19 AM

8/ being abandoned in ports. Also when there’s no product you start laying off truckers or independents do something else. So when the product comes back on line the system to move the product out of port doesn’t come back immediately. The upshot is that we’ve already locked in a long hot …

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 27, 2025 at 7:19 AM

Social media platforms such as Blue Sky have tools that let you decide who to let in and it turns out that these platforms can be pretty great if you only listen to people worth listening to.

Friday, April 25, 2025

Markets can remain high on LSD longer than you can remain solvent.


Tesla sales have dropped because people hate Elon Musk. But they'll go back when he starts spending more time at the company.

— New York Times Pitchbot (@nytpitchbot.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 11:20 AM



I'm not sure there has ever been an earnings call as disastrous as Tesla's three days ago. I'm absolutely certain there has never been one this disastrous that was followed by such an inexplicable reaction. As for the disaster: just over a 70% drop in profits, an enormous—perhaps unprecedented—level of brand damage, and a flagship product they couldn't sell before the CEO became one of the most hated men in the world.

Musk basically dropped the pretense of arguing that the car manufacturing business could ever justify the stock price of his company. Instead, he went all in on robots and robotaxis, despite a report leaked to the press a few days ago revealing that Tesla's own internal auditors had determined the self-driving taxi business would actually be a money loser.

But here's the truly amazing part: the markets responded to this train wreck of dumpster fires—this once-in-a-lifetime chance to see a company absolutely implode—by pushing the stock up 17 points over the next couple of days. The P/E ratio is now an eye-watering 142.83.

Tesla now has the worst of both worlds. Musk said he will continue his involvement with (and being the face of) the toxic DOGE movement, while also spending more time in the office tweeting, playing video games, and randomly rage-firing people.

Edward Niedermeyer, who wrote the definitive book on Tesla, probably does the best job capturing the profound insanity of  the call. Here are a few excepts of his very long thread.

future of Tesla is all based on autonomous vehicles and robots, Musk says, which has long been his way of saying that somehow the car business which generates the majority of the company's revenue doesn't matter... but "there will be some bumps in the road," he admits

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 2:43 PM
"somehow the car business which generates the majority of the company's revenue doesn't matter" because Tesla will never make enough selling cars to justify its valuation, not even if it sold more than Toyota, VW, Ford, and GM combined. The fact that sales are cratering only highlights what has always been obvious.

Musk claiming to have a general solution to self-driving, present tense

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 2:49 PM
Make a mental note of that last one.

"hundreds" of Optimus robots "doing useful work" at Tesla factories by the end of this year one million units/year of Optimus by 2029/30 why would anyone believe any of this until they deliver FSD in any kind of meaningful way?

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 2:51 PM
As recently as October, his robots required human operators to perform tasks as simple as pouring drinks. 

"Closest thing to heaven on earth," Musk says of the "sustainable abundance for all" that he says the Optimus robots will deliver. I mean, there it is

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 2:54 PM

my magical robots are going to create heaven on earth by overturning the laws of economics is the kind of message that really speaks to wall streets spiritual side

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 2:55 PM
When Noah Smith and Ezra Klein wax poetic about abundance, remember they're getting their ideas from people like Marc (crypto, WeWork 2.0) Andreessen and Elon Musk.

Musks says only Model Ys will be available for fully autonomous rides in June well that is interesting...

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:05 PM

It looks like the proposal is for a modest geo-fenced version that at best matches what competitors have been offering for years. Not an option you'd go with if you had "a general solution to self-driving, present tense."

I also wouldn't be surprised if this was the last we saw of the Cybercab.

"large scale autonomy" is now what Musk predicts to be a year away, by which he means "millions" around the middle of next year

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:06 PM
Musk has been promising a million robotaxis on the road next year since 2019.

"the issue with Waymo's cars is that they cost waymo money... *chuckles from other executives* ... rimshot" uh, so that just happened, Elon literally said "rimshot" for his own "joke," like a Steve Carrel character

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:17 PM
Because Waymo has waymo advanced technology. 

Elon thinks Tesla will have "ninety something percent" market share in autonomous driving, with millions next year, he thinks nobody can keep up

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:18 PM
About that...

Tesla still doesn't have a robotaxi service. Waymo is now doing 250,000+ paid trips a week across its markets in the US. www.cnbc.com/2025/04/24/w... brief update from me @cnbc.com w/ my colleague on the Alphabet beat @jennelias.bsky.social

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— Lora Kolodny (@lorak.bsky.social) April 24, 2025 at 3:08 PM

ELON DOUBLE DIPPED ON THE WAYMO MONEY JOKE

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:19 PM

God, what a loser.

This next part is fun.

Colin Langdon (who was at the event I put on earlier in the month) asks about dust/fog/glare issues with cameras as a safety issue in Tesla's approach to driving automation. Musk claims Tesla uniquely "bypasses the digital signal processer" and does "direct photon counting"

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:55 PM

Langdon: "So the camera works when there is direct glare on it? Because I'm a little surprised by that" Musk: yeah... yeah, yeah 💀

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:55 PM

respect to Colin Langdon of Wells Fargo, that was one of the most pointed and direct (and IMPORTANT) question on one of these calls in a while

— e.w. niedermeyer (@niedermeyer.online) April 22, 2025 at 3:57 PM
As mentioned many times before, Musk learns most of his engineering lines phonetically. Currently there are a number of conversations on Blue Sky with actual experts trying to figure out the original line he mangled.

Paging @drskyskull.bsky.social for comment on "bypasses the digital signal processor" for "direct photon counting." He's a professor of optics, I'm sure he'll confirm that's totally a real thing Musk is talking about and totally something cheap enough to install on every Tesla camera.

— Max Kennerly (@maxkennerly.bsky.social) April 22, 2025 at 4:06 PM

Um I can't even imagine why he's talking about "photon counting." That implies discriminating the influence of individual photons at a detector and nobody is doing that except for folks doing low-light quantum optics experiments.

— Dr. SkySkull (@drskyskull.bsky.social) April 22, 2025 at 4:27 PM


Thursday, April 24, 2025

"Been down so long it looks like up to me" -- a tale told mostly in tweets*

Market Psychology in 2025

"I'm going to lob a half dozen grenades into that building!"

Everyone runs out, screaming and trampling each other.

[Consults with advisors]

"Maybe I'll just lob three grenades into the building."

Everybody runs back in, singing and dancing.

 

Do traders have Stockholm Syndrome? Rally today appears based on WSJ report that we might have "only" 50-65% tariff on Chinese goods. That's still a huge effing tariff - roughly triple the average effective tariff rate on China last year. US companies still don't have margins to absorb this

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 7:26 AM

Yes, and the markets are believing it without any evidence. My money says there'll be some 'deal' announced, very light on details and with none of the critical issues addressed.

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— Kai Ryssdal (@kairyssdal.bsky.social) April 22, 2025 at 10:34 AM


We’ve talked about this before. Despite what you’ve heard, the current stock market loves uncertainty—probably because it contains at least the possibility of good news, and traders really want to hear some of that. As far as I can tell (keeping in mind that I am no expert on the financial system in general, and bonds in particular), bond traders remain more traditionally hard-headed in this respect.

“.. One reason for caution is that Bessent didn’t say any negotiations were in the works or even planned.” 🤡 @barrons.com www.barrons.com/articles/tru...

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 8:19 AM

Unclear why market participants are so responsive to small comments like this, when even Trump's Cabinet members do not appear to know what their boss will do from minute to minute on tariffs. www.ft.com/content/780c...

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 22, 2025 at 12:33 PM


Huge surges are sparked by vague, noncommittal statements from a secretary who is currently in a power struggle with Musk and Loomer and who may not outlast those unsustainable tariffs.

While on the subject of uncertainty, you have to wonder how the markets would react under some other administration if the Secretary of the Treasury—who was seen as one of the primary sources of stability in the economy—were to get into a shouting match in broad daylight at the White House with the second (second?) most powerful man in the country.

“It was two billionaire, middle-aged men thinking it was WWE in the hall of the West Wing," one witness said .. “.. the president saw it, and then they carried it down the hall, and that's when they did it again ..” “.. It was loud. And I mean, loud." @axios.com www.axios.com/2025/04/23/m...

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 10:58 AM

Putting aside the fact that these new “moderate” tariffs are still sky-high, there is no reason to believe that Trump won’t return to his more extreme position. For starters, Trump and many of his advisors deeply believe in the wisdom of tariffs, though their rationales may differ and even contradict each other.

Trump: "In 1913 they traded to the income tax system. We used to be all tariff. And we had no income tax and we had the wealthiest country we ever had proportionately from about 1870 to 1913. We had more money than anybody."

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) April 23, 2025 at 8:11 AM

for the second time today, Trump goes on a bizarre (and false) rant about how tariffs made the country the richest it ever has been between 1870 and 1913

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) April 23, 2025 at 2:42 PM

Trump’s ego—and his favorite negotiating strategy—both depend on maintaining a perception of dominance. It is difficult to imagine the general reaction to this new position not getting under his skin.

oh dear man just walked into principal Xi's office and asked for a spanking www.wsj.com/politics/pol...

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— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 1:55 PM



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— Mike Luckovich (@mluckovich.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 8:20 AM



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— Ivan the K ™☑️ (@ivanthek.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 6:41 AM

It is worth mentioning that even if Powell’s job is secure through the end of his term—something I’m not sure we should necessarily assume—Trump is continuing to interfere with and attempt to intimidate the Fed on a level that, in normal times, would cause an outcry and a substantial reaction from the markets.

“Trump seems to want all the significant sources of authority to bend to his whims: courts, elite universities, foreigners—both friend and foe. It strikes me as quite unlikely that the Fed will ultimately escape this,” said Jon Faust, a former senior adviser to Powell. www.wsj.com/economy/cent...

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— Nick Timiraos (@nicktimiraos.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 5:14 PM
"May defend"

Sure would be helpful if GOP lawmakers said these things publicly, on the record. Cowards. thehill.com/homenews/sen...

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 7:11 AM

Even if we take the tariffs and the firing of Powell off the table, there’s still plenty of bad news to go around.

Freight going through some things. #SummerOfScarcity 🇺🇸

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 23, 2025 at 7:43 AM

Remember when Treasury Secretary Bessent promised 3% GDP growth (slightly more modest that Trump’s crazy promise or 5%)? New IMF forecasts out, ratcheting down growth due to Trump trade wars. www.wsj.com/economy/glob...

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 22, 2025 at 6:42 AM

US Equities "Going Through Some Things": Capital Flight Accelerates Under Trump Regime www.reuters.com/business/fin...

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— Ape Shit News (@apeshitnews.bsky.social) April 15, 2025 at 12:33 AM

“.. judging only from price action, we are suddenly witnessing a comprehensive turn away from US assets (stocks, USTs, corporate credit and the dollar). this is the single most important theme to monitor over coming weeks. .. for the moment capital is flowing out of the US.” - GS Desk/Pasquariello

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— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social) April 13, 2025 at 3:27 PM

For instance, I don't think it's crazy to imagine Trump defaulting on the debt by accident or in a fit of pique. www.offmessage.net/p/trump-cour...

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— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler.bsky.social) April 22, 2025 at 8:23 AM


* Technically not "tweets" but you know what I mean. 

Wednesday, April 23, 2025

We'll be okay as long as the Silicon Valley grown-up are in charge -- Greenland edition

I'll try to come back to this one with one or two more detailed posts, but for now, here are a few quick observations.

1. This goes a long way toward explaining why the conquest of Greenland remains such a high priority for the White House. I suspect that most people assumed this was just a personal, passing obsession with Trump, when in fact it appears to have considerable support among his backers.

2. The assumption that the sane and sober PayPal Mafia and their hand-picked vice president would be a moderating and stabilizing influence on the administration was always based on a profound misunderstanding of who these people are.

3. The discussion of Greenland's mineral resources was, for me, perhaps the most chilling part. Just coming out and saying we should take them over because they have nice stuff strips away any pretense of justification.

4. Thiel et al. have had this dream for a long time. From Wired (paywalled but discussed here):

THE SEASTEADING INSTITUTE was the toast of tech entrepreneurs when it received financial backing from venture capitalist Peter Thiel in 2008. Its mission was to build a manmade island nation where inventors could work free of heavy-handed government interference. One early rendering shows an island raised on concrete stilts in eerily calm waters. [Spoiler alert: it turned out that the open ocean in the middle of international waters were seldom eerily calm. -- MP]] The buildings atop the platform resemble nothing so much as the swanky tech campus of an entrepreneur’s ultimate dream: No sign of land or civilization in sight. The island, despite appearing strapped for square footage, has room for a full-size swimming pool with deck lounges.

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Thiel’s reassessment marks a clear departure from tech culture’s unflinching confidence in its ability to self-govern. In recent years a number of prominent entrepreneurs have urged Silicon Valley to create a less inhibited place for its work. Larry Page called on technologists to “set aside a small part of the world” to test new ideas. Elon Musk has aimed at colonizing Mars. And venture capitalist Tim Draper made a proposal to divide Silicon Valley into its own state. But aside from the continued growth of full-service tech campuses such as Google’s and Facebook’s, very little has been accomplished in the way of true societal independence.


One quick side note. While California Forever does have a clear libertarian influence and is modeled after the far-right, white-flight enclave that gave us Matt Gaetz, unlike the Greenland proposal, it is less of a political statement and more of a classic real estate scheme taken from the oldest page in the playbook: Quietly, or even secretly, scoop up land on the cheap, then manipulate the system to get it rezoned. It's a classic because it may be the simplest and easiest way to make a huge windfall profit without breaking any laws (at least most of the time).

Mack DeGeurin writing for Popular Science:

Who is behind the freedom city? 

The Reuters report cites claims Howery, Thiel, and prominent Silicon Valley venture capitalist Marc Andreesen are amongst the most prominent names backing the Greenland effort. Howery, who still needs the US Senate to confirm his position as ambassador to Denmark, is reportedly a long-time friend of billionaire Elon Musk and formerly founded a venture capital firm with Thiel. Thiel, meanwhile, has emerged as one of the loudest supporters, both vocally and financially, of the “Seasteading” movement, which is trying to build floating, stateless utopia cities in the ocean. Andressen, notably, is also part of a tech-investor consortium California Forever looking to build the city in Solano County.  Each of these efforts—along with others like the already existing city Próspera in Honduras—are united by libertarian political ideals, a focus on technological development, and lots of money.  

Rumors around the proposed Greenland city date back at least to November 2024 when Praxis co-founder Dryden Brown fired off a series of tweets explaining how he had tried to purchase land in Greenland. Praxis is a self-described “internet-native nation” crypto startup with a stated goal of “restor[ing] Western civilization,” and has reportedly received over $525 million in funding to start building out new cities. Brown told Reuters he has since been approached by several companies to explore establishing a new city on Greenland.

 

Why the obsession with Greenland? 

The idea of the U.S. acquiring Greenland, once widely regarded as a joke during the first Trump administration, has evolved into a serious U.S. foreign policy objective. The president campaigned on the issue during the 2024 election and has since doubled down, despite repeated assertions from Danish officials that the island isn’t for sale. Nevertheless, Vice President J.D. Vance and his wife, Usha Vance, visited a U.S. military installation on the island in March 2024 and delivered a speech urging Greenlanders to voluntarily cut ties with Denmark. (Recent polling shows that an overwhelming majority of Greenland residents oppose the idea of possible annexation by the U.S.) President Trump, meanwhile, has not ruled out the possibility of taking the territory by force.

So why all the obsession with a mostly uninhabitable island with a population of around 57,000? Supporters of Greenland development laid out their arguments during a Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation hearing earlier this year. During the hearing, Texas Mineral Resources Board Chairman Anthony Marchese claimed Greenland’s coastline holds what is “indisputably” one of the greatest collections of minerals found in a single jurisdiction. That includes rare earth minerals, which are crucial to powering a plethora of modern consumer electronics devices.


Tuesday, April 22, 2025

Of course, the chances of people relying on their 401(k)s breaking even are much slimmer

 


 


 

JFC. So far, Trump has caused markets to lose about 14%. Here's how the same period to date looks under other recent presidential terms

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— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) April 4, 2025 at 7:40 AM

 Though it's highly unlikely that any of them will ever be anything but obscenely rich, most of Trump's billionaire supporters (of which there are alarmingly many) have found the administration’s economic policies—or lack thereof—incredibly costly, both in absolute and relative terms.

 

Trump keeps finding new ways to terrify Wall Street | CNN Business
Allison Morrow

After months of swearing up and down he wouldn’t fire Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, Trump on Thursday reversed course and said Powell’s “termination” couldn’t come soon enough. Stocks fell sharply.

Then US stock traders had a nice three-day weekend — the first sunny and warm spring weather New York City has seen this year — to ponder whether Trump was serious. Perhaps Thursday’s threat was just a bit of bluster from a president prone to tantrums — a one-off social media post that his more stable advisers will surely try to rein in to avoid an all-out panic.

Or…not.

Shortly after the US stock market opened Monday morning, Trump once again attacked Powell for ostensibly not cutting interest rates fast enough. Stocks immediately tumbled and the US dollar fell to its lowest level in three years.

While Trump’s tariff plan has been disruptive, the uncertainty it created had, to an extent, become priced in. Markets famously hate uncertainty, but the 90-day pause on the administration’s most aggressive tariffs offered a measure of reassurance that Trump may relent if there’s enough of a negative reaction.

Attacking the independence of the Federal Reserve is a new level of recklessness that few thought possible. But now even Kevin Hassett, the White House adviser who literally wrote a book arguing against firing the Fed chair, is saying openly that the administration is discussing whether to do so before Powell’s term ends a year from now.

 

At the same time, those plutocrats who happen to be first in line find themselves on the verge of huge, perhaps unprecedented, windfalls from massive and blatantly corrupt government boondoggles.

Among the “My yacht has a yacht” wealthy, it's safe to say that there will be winners and losers, with the latter greatly outnumbering the former. The one name that seems safely in that first group is Peter Thiel. The outcome for Elon Musk, however, is much more uncertain. On one hand, he appears to be in the pole position for billions upon billions of dollars in sweetheart government contracts. On the other hand, he is likely to lose hundreds of billions through the damage that has been done to Tesla. It could well take a quarter of a trillion dollars in graft just to break even.

Christopher Bing and Avi Asher-Schapiro reporting for ProPublica:

GSA is eying Ramp to get a piece of the government’s $700 billion internal expense card program, known as SmartPay. In recent weeks, Trump appointees at GSA have been moving quickly to tap Ramp for a charge card pilot program worth up to $25 million, sources told ProPublica, even as Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency highlights the multitudes of contracts it has canceled across federal agencies.

Founded six years ago, Ramp is backed by some of the most powerful figures in Silicon Valley. One is Peter Thiel, the billionaire venture capitalist who was one of Trump’s earliest supporters in the tech world and who spent millions aiding Vice President JD Vance’s Ohio Senate run. Thiel’s firm, Founders Fund, has invested in seven separate rounds of funding for Ramp, according to data from PitchBook. Last year Thiel said there was “no one better positioned” to build products at the intersection of AI and finance.

To date, the company has raised about $2 billion in venture capital, according to startup tracking website Crunchbase, much of it from firms with ties to Trump and Musk. Ramp’s other major financial backers include Keith Rabois of Khosla Ventures; Thrive Capital, founded by Joshua Kushner, the brother of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner; and 8VC, a firm run by Musk allies. [Specifically Joe Lonsdale -- MP]

The special attention Gruenbaum paid to Ramp raised flags inside and outside the agency. “This goes against all the normal contracting safeguards that are set up to prevent contracts from being awarded based on who you know,” said Scott Amey, the general counsel with the bipartisan Project on Government Oversight. He said career civil servants should lead the process to pick the best choice for taxpayers.

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Rabois, one of Ramp’s earliest investors, is part of an influential group of tech titans known as the “PayPal Mafia.” Leaders of the early payments company include several influential players surrounding the Trump administration, including Musk and Thiel. Rabois and his husband, Jacob Helberg, hosted a fundraiser that pulled in upwards of $1 million for Trump’s 2024 campaign, according to media reports. Trump has nominated Helberg for a senior role at the State Department.

 

 And it gets worse.

 Mike Stone and Marisa Taylor reporting for Reuters

WASHINGTON, April 17 (Reuters) - Elon Musk's SpaceX and two partners have emerged as frontrunners to win a crucial part of President Donald Trump's "Golden Dome" missile defense shield, six people familiar with the matter said.

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All three companies were founded by entrepreneurs who have been major political supporters of Trump. Musk has donated more than a quarter of a billion dollars to help elect Trump, and now serves as a special adviser to the president working to cut government spending through his Department of Government Efficiency.

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One of the sources familiar with the talks described them as "a departure from the usual acquisition process. There's an attitude that the national security and defense community has to be sensitive and deferential to Elon Musk because of his role in the government."

SpaceX and Musk have declined to comment on whether Musk is involved in any of the discussions or negotiations involving federal contracts with his businesses.

 But, as Josh Marshall points out, that's not the jaw-dropping part.

4/ This honestly is perhaps the most insane thing we’ve heard since Jan 20. Musk, Thiel and Luckey want the US to pay for the creation of this network of surveillance and attack lasers and then the Pentagon will become a subscriber to the service. So the US won’t own our own missile defense.

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— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) April 19, 2025 at 4:42 PM

 

 

Monday, April 21, 2025

Though not directly related to the IRS story, I have to mention that the "spend more time with his families" joke has gotten much more relevant recently

Remember a couple of weeks ago when everyone assured us that Musk was phasing out his role in government? (discussed here Is Elon stepping back to spend more time with his families?)

Not so much...

From the Guardian via LGM:

 
    Donald Trump is replacing the acting commissioner of the US Internal Revenue Service after treasury secretary Scott Bessent reportedly complained to the president that the agency head had been appointed without his knowledge and under the instruction of Doge leader Elon Musk.

    According to a report from the New York Times published on Friday, Bessent believed that the Doge head “had done an end-run around him” to get Gary Shapley installed as the interim head of the IRS, despite the fact that the IRS reports to Bessent. The report cited five anonymous sources with knowledge of the situation.

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On social media, the conflict between Bessent and Musk was visible as Musk elevated a post from far-right conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer in which she accuses Bessent of collaborating with a “pro-impeachment and pro-censorship Trump hater”, referring to the businessman John Hope Bryant. Musk agreed with Loomer, calling the collaboration “troubling”, on X, the platform he owns.  

Here's a longer quote from Loomer on Bryant:

This DEI hire by Scott Bessent just wants to, you know, proclaim that Donald Trump should resign or that he should be impeached because he was fighting for election integrity and fighting against the stolen election of 2020. I thought that we were getting rid of DEI, and then we get to have these uppity Blacks just walk into the Trump administration and start making demands and acting like they run the Treasury department, and that they should have, like, an active role in the Trump administration while they sit around and try to undermine every initiative that Donald Trump has worked on.
Yes, she did just unironically use the U-word.

For a bit of context...

under joe biden we had three (3) irs commissioners in 4 years under trump we have had four (4) irs commissioners in *checks notes* 4 *months*

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— Oliver Willis (@owillis.bsky.social) April 18, 2025 at 12:35 PM

 While we can debate whether his influence is waxing or waning, Elon Musk clearly still exercises unprecedented power for someone in his position. Even as broadly and badly defined as his duties with DOGE are—picking the head of the IRS still manages to go well beyond them. In at least this one sense, Elon Musk’s role is larger than we realized.

Furthermore, he appears to be trying to entrench—or even expand—that power by taking out rivals within the administration. For anyone familiar with the history of Tesla or the company eventually known as PayPal, this is the exact opposite of surprising.

With the Cybertruck on its way to becoming perhaps the most disastrous vehicle launch in history, and with new stories of corruption involving him and the rest of the so-called PayPal Mafia continuing to break, he may have decided that the only way to maintain his fortune—which currently rests on a precariously overvalued Tesla and SpaceX—is to put himself in a position where he can divert billions upon billions of dollars of government money into his enterprises.

While it sometimes seems like the markets, instead of hating * uncertainty, have come around to seeing it as an excuse for optimism—as when they responded with a surge of enthusiasm to the indefinite and often contradictory claims about the tariff pause—at some point, investors are going to have to face reality and start pricing in the cost of palace intrigue, policy turmoil, and an increasingly dysfunctional government. The possibility of Musk forcing out the Treasury Secretary might not lead to the level of uncertainty you’d get from Trump firing Jerome Powell, but it’s still a reminder that, as incoherent and chaotic as our fiscal policies have been over the past few months, they can still get worse.

* I had ChatGPT proofread this and I didn't notice it had changed "hating" to "heeding" for some unfathomable reason. Always double check the LLM.

UPDATE: Eight hours after we posted "at some point, investors are going to have to face reality and start pricing in the cost of palace intrigue, policy turmoil, and an increasingly dysfunctional government."