Thursday, November 14, 2024

Twelve years ago at the blog -- people still bothered to think about Freakonomics

Check out Steven Levitt's Wikipedia page.

Steven David Levitt (born May 29, 1967) is an American economist and co-author of the best-selling book Freakonomics and its sequels (along with Stephen J. Dubner). Levitt was the winner of the 2003 John Bates Clark Medal for his work in the field of crime, and is currently the William B. Ogden Distinguished Service Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago as well as the Faculty Director and Co-Founder of the Center for Radical Innovation for Social Change at the University of Chicago[2] which incubates the Data Science for Everyone coalition.[3] He was co-editor of the Journal of Political Economy published by the University of Chicago Press until December 2007. In 2009, Levitt co-founded TGG Group, a business and philanthropy consulting company.[4] He was chosen as one of Time magazine's "100 People Who Shape Our World" in 2006.[5] A 2011 survey of economics professors named Levitt their fourth favorite living economist under the age of 60, after Paul Krugman, Greg Mankiw and Daron Acemoglu.[6]

 It's easy to forget just what a big deal Levitt was in the early 2000s, and just how quickly he devolved into a hack after he turned forty.

Friday, October 26, 2012

When you start a sentence with "one good indicator of a person who’s not so smart," you should be extra careful about what you say next

Andrew Gelman spends some time on this latest quote from Steven Levitt on the rationality of voting:
DUBNER: So Levitt, how can you in your life, when you wander around, tell the difference between a smart person and a not-so-smart person?

LEVITT: Well, one good indicator of a person who’s not so smart is if they vote in a presidential election because they think their vote might actually decide which candidate wins. . . . there has never been and there never will be a vote cast in a presidential election that could possibly be decisive.
Gelman has been riding this beat for a long time, repeatedly pointing out the flaws in this strangely persistent argument. He makes a good case (part of which I basically paraphrase in point one), but there are other problems with Levitt's claims.

Here's a brief and certainly incomplete list of objections.

1. Every vote affects the probability distribution of a race, and since the difference in outcomes is so large, even a tiny change in probabilities can conceivably create a detectable change in expected value

2. Every vote in every race. Except for undervoting, we're talking about the combined impact for the entire ballot.

3. This isn't binary. The margin of a win can affect:

Perceived mandate and political capital;

Officials' decisions (particularly in non-term-limited positions). Congressmen who win by large margins are less likely to feel constrained about unpopular votes;

Funding. A lopsided defeat can make it harder for a candidate or a state party to raise money;

Party strategy. How much effort do you expend finding a challenger against an official who beat you by more than ten points last time?;

Media narrative.It's possible to come back after press corp has labeled you a loser, but it isn't easy.

and finally

4. The system works better with higher response rates. It's more stable and harder to game. Perhaps even more important, it does a better job representing the will of the governed.

That's the top of my head list. Undoubted, I missed some.

Gelman goes on:
I would not conclude from the above discussion that Levitt is not so smart. Of course he’s very smart, he just happens to be misinformed on this issue. I applaud Levitt’s willingness to go out on a limb and say controversial things in a podcast, to get people thinking. I just wish he’d be a bit less sure of himself and not go around saying that he thinks that Aaron, Noah, Nate and I are not so smart.
He's being overly diplomatic. Levitt isn't just misinformed; he's willfully misinformed. In issue after issue (drunk driving, car seats, solar energy) he has used sloppy reasoning to reach a controversial position, then has done his best to turn a deaf ear to those who pointed out his errors. We did get a partial retraction of his claims on driving*, but on others he has doubled down and occasionally resorted to cheap shots at those who disagreed with him.

Levitt is very smart. That's what makes this sort off thing so difficult to overlook.




* Though still leaving potential errors unacknowledged, such as the likely possibility that drivers in accidents are more likely to be checked for intoxication than pedestrians, that a stricter standard might be used, that many of the most intoxicated are prevented from driving and that intoxication is more likely to be noted in official records for drivers

 

5 comments:

  1. Mark:

    I've been talking with some people recently about Levitt in light of his recent blunders (for example here: https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2024/10/28/freakonomics-does-it-again-not-in-a-good-way-jeez-these-guys-are-credulous/), and one thing people have told me is that, yes, Levitt is a smart and conscientious person. He just seems to me optimizing over a different utility function (or, to say it in a less jargony and more accurate way, aiming for different goals) than we are.

    Roughly speaking, we're continually picking at the areas of contradiction or confusion in our models of the world---or of others' models of the world---with the goal of making the contradictions clear and ultimately moving us and others to a better understanding. In the short and medium term, we're seeking discomfort.

    Levitt, on the other hand, seems much more motivated to seek comfort and confirmation. In the early Freakonomics era, this came in the form of comfort with the academic and media establishment and confirmation of a certain mode of microeconomics, what is sometimes called "Econ 101" thinking. In the middle Freakonomics era, this came in the form of comfort with the work of his friends, a sort of cozy contrarian economic and academic elite---hence his problem, which Kaiser Fung and I noted in our review of the Freakonomics franchise, of putting too much trust in various speculative claims. In the current, or late, Freakonomics area, Levitt's motivation seems to be comfort with other media celebrities, comfort with his role as charming contrarian, and confirmation of the scientist-as-hero principle.

    Interestingly enough, I don't see that Levitt has fallen into the businessman-as-hero belief: when he writes about businessmen, they seem to typically be plucky outsiders; I don't recall seeing him offer paeans to media business heroes such as the founders of Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, Paypal, etc. Part of this might be his belief in microeconomics, which focuses on the consumer rather than the seller.

    Anyway, I'm sure the above is all unfair to Levitt---it's all speculative, I've never met the man. My only defense is that he is a public communicator, and he's not just communicating facts and falsehoods, he's also communicating a persona that is changing over time. So you could say that the above is a comment on "Steven Levitt," the persona, rather than Steven Levitt, the human.

    Andrew

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  2. I read this blog religiously and love it — I think it’s a crime, or possibly a blessing, that you don’t get much feedback besides from Andrew. Keep it up!

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    1. Thanks very much for the kind words. Sticking with blogging at this point does feel like being the last of the ham radio operators. The lack of comment is definitely a mixed curse. There are times when I'd really like to get a good conversation going, but I don't have to deal with many assholes either. -- MP

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  3. I don't know if this helps, but I left a long comment on this post a couple days ago and the blog software seems to have eaten it.
    - Andrew

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    1. Andrew,

      Thanks for letting me know. Found it in the spam folder. Not sure what happened but it should be back now.

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