Monday, October 23, 2023

Suggesting that another candidate could take the nomination away from Donald Trump is not just unrealistic; it is journalistic malpractice.

[I didn't see David Weakliem and Andrew Gelman's related posts until after I wrote this. I plan to have a reply ready soon (tldr: I'm still skeptical). I'm also working on posts examining other aspects of the primary. "The polls" don't tell the whole story, but the rest of the details don't seem to tell that different a tale.]

The New York Times and company have been peddling a dangerous fantasy. It is easy to see the appeal of a scenario where the Republican Party suddenly comes to it senses and saves us from this threat to democracy, but based on all of the available data that would be all but impossible and encouraging people to hold on to that fantasy is as irresponsible as advising the debt-ridden to play the lottery.

I've been going through the polling for the last few presidential races. Joseph has been looking at things like ranked choice, and, as have many others, we both independently came to the conclusion that even before a single primary is run, unless something cataclysmic happens to the race, Donald Trump has basically won the nomination. 

I'll see if I can get Joseph to talk more about the numbers that he has seen, but based on the historical record from places like 538 and Real Clear Politics, we are looking at an unprecedented level of support. Mitt Romney had what amounted to an insurmountable lead, but it was dwarfed by the level of support that Trump had in 2015, which in turn has been dwarfed by what he has now.

Barring truly unprecedented shifts in the way things have always worked, I can think of only three plausible scenarios where Trump fails to get the nomination. The first would be some kind of major health crisis. The next two would be based on big legal setbacks. Much of this hinges not on whether he is convicted but on where.

If Trump is convicted in federal court, he will go to a minimum security white collar facility where he will still be able to live a relatively cushy lifestyle while having access to the press and being able to play the martyr card. It would even be a fundraising opportunity. Just to show how far we have sunk, I'm not confident that this would be enough to cost him the nomination. Trump has apparently been thinking along these lines as well since there have been news reports of him asking questions like would he be able to have his own food sent in if he went to prison.

Georgia is a different story. As I understand it (and if there are any experts in the audience, please speak up) there is nothing analogous to Club Fed in the Georgia State Prison system. Though he would get some special treatment such as a secret service detail, this would be from his perspective very hard time and even if he were to be able to somehow win the presidency, he still couldn't pardon himself.

(There have been reports of Trump asking advisers what conditions in prison would be like. If he's been getting honest answers, Georgia has got to be making him nervous.)

The former president is the very definition of a flight risk. He has private planes, tons of cash, and lots of places to run to. Perhaps I am being insufficiently cynical, but I do believe that the GOP would dump Trump if he fled the country to avoid extradition.

Obviously these are extreme cases, and normally we wouldn't even bring them up, but as improbable as some people may claim them to be, a major health crisis or a criminal conviction are both far more likely than the possibility of anyone who is currently running or is likely to run in the GOP primary unseating a healthy, actively campaigning Trump.

There's one point we need to be really clear on, and it's something that political commentators have been doing a horrible job with over the past year. In normal times, anything that helps you win the nomination helps your overall chances of winning an election simply because without the first you can't have the second. That said, as savvy politicians like Richard Nixon have always understood, there are positions and actions that can improve your odds in the primary but seriously hurt you in the general. This has probably never been more true. Being sent to federal prison may actually improve polling numbers for the nomination, but they will almost certainly hurt November after next.

3 comments:

  1. Mark:

    For whatever reason, I find it difficult to try to make predictions about what will happen in the primaries, although I agree that, based on what I've seen so far, it's hard to picture a path where someone other than Trump wins the Republican nomination.

    The point that Weakliem was making, and that I was echoing, was that Trump's commanding position in the Republican presidential race is coming in large part from his near-unanimous public support from Republican party leaders. If they were to kick him out of the party, I think that would cost him a lot of support among Republican voters, not so much because those voters love the Republican Party (Republican voters love the organized Republican Party about as much as Democratic voters love the organized Democratic Party, which is to say not very much at all) but because they realize that, if they see Trump as a flawed but effective weapon to fight Democrats, that he cannot do that without party support.

    Andrew

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    1. Maybe I'm too far away, but the above sounds simply the reverse of reality. Trump support among the base is unwavering and the "party leaders" are supporting Trump simply because they don't have a choice; being anti-Trump isn't an option. Ask Liz Cheney. (Note that Ms. Cheney had the highest percentage of voting with Trump in congress. Her policies are perfect Trump. But.She's.Gone.)

      IMHO, the below linked article has it right: Trump is the de facto leader of the Republican party, and the NYT writers are as deluded as the article says they are.

      https://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2023/10/trump-has-led-gop-for-nearly-decade-and.html

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    2. David,

      Make sure to check out tomorrow's post

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